In 2011, Sam Bleckley wrote a fascinating piece called The Church of Interruption, highlighting a fundamental clash in how people communicate. He proposed two conversational “dogmas” or churches: those who interrupt to show understanding, and those who wait patiently for their turn.
While Bleckley’s original article is brilliant, I have a slightly different take on the topic. By breaking down conversation into two distinct axesβhow we speak and how we listenβwe can identify four distinct conversational archetypes and map exactly why some conversations flow effortlessly while others become frustrating monologues.
Here is my breakdown of the conversational matrix.
Every person defaults to specific behaviors when they have the floor (speaking) and when someone else has the floor (listening).
Based on these combinations, four distinct conversational profiles emerge.
| Profile | Speaking Behavior | Listening Behavior | The Bleckley Equivalent |
|---|---|---|---|
| The Interrupter | Speaks until interrupted | Interrupts when they understand | Church of Interruption |
| The Civilist | Speaks briefly | Expects you to speak briefly | Church of Civility |
| The Best | Speaks briefly | Interrupts when they understand | (The Ideal Balance) |
| The Worst | Speaks until interrupted | Expects you to speak briefly | Barkers |
They view interruption as active listening. They will keep talking until you signal you’ve got it, and they will cut you off to show they understand you. With fellow Interrupters, conversations are rapid, energetic, and perfectly functional.
They view interruption as rude. They make their point quickly and efficiently, expecting you to do the same. They will patiently wait for a pause before speaking.
This is the golden mean. They speak briefly (ensuring they don’t hog the conversation), but they are comfortable interrupting others when they have grasped the concept (ensuring time isn’t wasted). They adapt well to almost everyone.
This is the most toxic conversational style. They will talk endlessly until forced to stop, yet they are too “polite” or passive to ever interrupt anyone else.
What happens when these different profiles talk to one another? The chart below shows the experience of Person A (Row) when they converse with Person B (Column).
| Person A \ Person B | The Interrupter | The Civilist | The Best | The Worst |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| The Interrupter | β OK | β Speaks too much | β OK | β Speaks too much |
| The Civilist | β Hears too much | β OK | β OK | β Hears too much |
| The Best | β OK | β OK | β OK | β OK |
| The Worst | β Hears too much | β Speaks too much | β OK | π₯ Total Disaster |
Most conversational friction doesn’t come from malice; it comes from mismatched dogmas.
If you want to be a better communicator, strive for the “Best” archetype. Learn to be concise and deliver your points briefly. However, don’t be afraid to jump in and politely interrupt when someone is dragging on. By combining brevity in your own speech with active, boundary-setting listening, you can navigate conversations with any of the other three types without a hitch.
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Updated on 2026 Oct 11.
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